Stile88 Posted August 10, 2016 Report Share Posted August 10, 2016 For all those that have the 23 what are the dimensions of the upper grate maybe a better question would be what size is the pizza stone for it ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bernux Posted August 12, 2016 Report Share Posted August 12, 2016 46cm by 42 cm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DennisLinkletter Posted August 13, 2016 Report Share Posted August 13, 2016 Tough to understand by measurements, better to see it. Designed to give you the most possible real estate possible. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CeramicChef Posted August 13, 2016 Report Share Posted August 13, 2016 The baking stones are wonderful additions to my arsenal of KKs. The baking stones require preheating, but they produce the best pastries, breads, pizzas, etc. I think the baking stones are just about my favorite accessories. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Pearson Posted August 13, 2016 Report Share Posted August 13, 2016 Can you use a heat deflector stones as baking stones? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CeramicChef Posted August 13, 2016 Report Share Posted August 13, 2016 @Bruce Pearson - I wouldn't advise using a heat deflector as a baking stone. First, the finish on the baking stone is much superior to the finish found on the heat deflector. Second, the thermal properties are significantly different between the baking stone and the heat deflectors. Third, the thermal mass is of the baking stone far outweighs that of the deflectors. The baking stone is designed to provide just the right of thermal mass to aid in baking multiple pizzas, give great crusts to breads, and really radiate back heat to the bake. Heat deflectors are built to block heat. Finally, there is a real difference in the materials used in the baking stone and the deflectors. If I'm not mistaken, the deflectors are built from refractory, but I could be wrong on that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacKenzie Posted August 13, 2016 Report Share Posted August 13, 2016 Exactly what CC said, it's a big no no to use the heat deflector as a baking stone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Pearson Posted August 13, 2016 Report Share Posted August 13, 2016 Thanks Ken I was just curious. I have the baking stone for my kk 32 but I was just wondering if you could use those stones. Have a great day 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DennisLinkletter Posted August 13, 2016 Report Share Posted August 13, 2016 You can bake on anything actually even your SS grates.. the difference is in the thermal transfer.. The more dense the material is the more heat is transferred and if less dense less heat. It really depends on what you are baking. For standard crust to thick crust and bread our baking stone works great.. if a stone is too hot the crust burns before the toppings are cooked, too porous and the top burns before the crust is ready. For cracker /Neapolitan pizza you need a baking steel that is screaming hot. Yes, Ken you are correct the heat deflectors are the same material as the grill's hot-face while the baking stone has a very targeted/engineered density for baking and a nearly polished surface. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dstr8 Posted August 13, 2016 Report Share Posted August 13, 2016 (edited) CC, wait until you try thin crust pizzas atop the baking steel! I was a non-believer...thinking there wouldn't be that much difference compared to even the thick shaped KK stone (which I love by the way). I am able to get very, very close to the same results using my Neapolitan dough mix at 550F on the steel compared to 750F on the stone saving me considerable fuel and the time to manage 750F! And smash burgers atop 3/8" plate are incredible too. Different tools for different applications. Can't wait for Dennis to get his baking steel ready for purchase! Edited August 13, 2016 by dstr8 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve M Posted August 16, 2016 Report Share Posted August 16, 2016 Which is the larger of the two on the 23"? I'm not sure which is which at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve M Posted August 16, 2016 Report Share Posted August 16, 2016 I measured the one I thought was the baking stone and got the same measurements referenced above (46 x 42cm). However, it doesn't quite seem to fit the upper grate: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinD Posted August 16, 2016 Report Share Posted August 16, 2016 I had the same issue and Dennis advised me to gently hit the handles from the inside to spread them just enough until the stone drops in. I used a hammer with folder paper towel to do mine. He recommended using a 2x4 piece of lumber but I didn't have...made do with the hammer and paper towel... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacKenzie Posted August 16, 2016 Report Share Posted August 16, 2016 I used a 2X4 on mine and just gently wedge in to spread the handles. Worked perfectly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve M Posted August 16, 2016 Report Share Posted August 16, 2016 1 hour ago, KevinD said: I had the same issue and Dennis advised me to gently hit the handles from the inside to spread them just enough until the stone drops in. I used a hammer with folder paper towel to do mine. He recommended using a 2x4 piece of lumber but I didn't have...made do with the hammer and paper towel... 1 hour ago, MacKenzie said: I used a 2X4 on mine and just gently wedge in to spread the handles. Worked perfectly. Thanks, I'll give it a shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Ora Posted August 17, 2016 Report Share Posted August 17, 2016 Jump on it Outback Kamado Bar and Grill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve M Posted August 17, 2016 Report Share Posted August 17, 2016 56 minutes ago, Aussie Ora said: Jump on it Outback Kamado Bar and Grill That was my natural instinct - trying to fight it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DennisLinkletter Posted August 17, 2016 Report Share Posted August 17, 2016 16 hours ago, Steve M said: I measured the one I thought was the baking stone and got the same measurements referenced above (46 x 42cm). However, it doesn't quite seem to fit the upper grate: Argh.. Yes we made the baking stone as large as possible to fit between the two handles of the upper grate. The grates themselves are made in a jig for uniformity, the handles are installed by hand and if the handles lean in just a tad too much this can happen.. As they said, a well placed tap will correct this easily.. Sorry we missed it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve M Posted August 17, 2016 Report Share Posted August 17, 2016 55 minutes ago, DennisLinkletter said: Argh.. Yes we made the baking stone as large as possible to fit between the two handles of the upper grate. The grates themselves are made in a jig for uniformity, the handles are installed by hand and if the handles lean in just a tad too much this can happen.. As they said, a well placed tap will correct this easily.. Sorry we missed it No problem, I don't think it will take too much work to get it to fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bosco Posted August 18, 2016 Report Share Posted August 18, 2016 I used the 2x4 and hammer and it took two small hits on each handle. Simple 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
