churchi Posted August 27, 2016 Report Share Posted August 27, 2016 Hi All, I was using my rotti basket the other night and when i took the basket out (it was a bit tight as the steel had expanded a few mm during the cook, and it was super hot), i accidentally chipped around the edge of my KK. Its the black looking paint/sealant around the edge of the KK. I dont think it will harm or hurt the cooking on my KK and i have cooked on it since, however i was wondering do i need to get some more of the black lid sealant to fix up the hole? I will attach a pic of the issue below. I want to fix it up if required before it may get any worse. Also dose anyone know if we get something to fix it up with (if it needs to be) in the spare kit we get from @DennisLinkletter? Or what would be the best to repair it if i want to. Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syzygies Posted August 27, 2016 Report Share Posted August 27, 2016 Mine is older, and has more of that going on. I don't worry. If you get significant leaking, fires not going out, that's time to worry. This isn't that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DennisLinkletter Posted August 27, 2016 Report Share Posted August 27, 2016 This is completely cosmetic. Basically color added so the lip is not splotchy grey. The lip is traditional grout bonded with a process using a heat gun.. I'd explore rubbing dark grunge from the wall of your grill into it. If it was darker it would not stand out and then it would just be a texture difference. It's doubtful the repair will look any better.. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony b Posted August 27, 2016 Report Share Posted August 27, 2016 Thanks, Dennis, good to know! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacKenzie Posted August 27, 2016 Report Share Posted August 27, 2016 Just another finest example of how much one can learn about the KK from reading this forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Ora Posted August 28, 2016 Report Share Posted August 28, 2016 I chipped a bit off mine pulling the basket out on the wrong angle live and learn but it's on the inner edge so won't effect the seal am I happy no but you get that lol Outback Kamado Bar and Grill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ckreef Posted August 28, 2016 Report Share Posted August 28, 2016 Mine is older, and has more of that going on. I don't worry. If you get significant leaking, fires not going out, that's time to worry. This isn't that. That upper surface has nothing to do with sealing the KK. Depending on your particular unit the dome might not even sit down perfectly flush on that upper surface. The silicone gasket is where the sealing is. . Like Dennis said that is all cosmetic. I have a few chips and a few cracks across the upper surface on both my KK's. Hasn't effected anything. Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syzygies Posted August 28, 2016 Report Share Posted August 28, 2016 1 hour ago, ckreef said: The silicone gasket is where the sealing is. Yes, the chipping shown is cosmetic. I also experienced chipping which caused my gasket to come partway loose, get caught while closing the lid, leading to leaks and fires not going out, good charcoal wasted. The same chipping, cosmetic or functional depending on location. And my older KK has a slightly different rim geometry, one can't make assumptions. I was being terse, to avoid spelling out my problems, but the connection I implied is entirely on topic. Lid rim degeneration can be cosmetic or functional, depending on location. After getting advice from Dennis which matched my earlier experience with a different cooker, I used the highest grade of auto parts store "gasket maker" to glue my gasket back down. It has held so far... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
churchi Posted August 29, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2016 On 8/27/2016 at 1:18 PM, DennisLinkletter said: This is completely cosmetic. Basically color added so the lip is not splotchy grey. The lip is traditional grout bonded with a process using a heat gun.. I'd explore rubbing dark grunge from the wall of your grill into it. If it was darker it would not stand out and then it would just be a texture difference. It's doubtful the repair will look any better.. Cheers thanks for the reply @DennisLinkletter I thought it could be just cosmetic however i thought it was best to ask. Hearing from the replies i think it was a great chance to explain that to all the users here. Much appreciated as well are all the other suggestions too. Ill take the advice to colour it black with some soot/grunge. Simple ideas to fix issues. I like it. cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjs Posted August 31, 2016 Report Share Posted August 31, 2016 It's liking getting a ding in new car. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Ora Posted September 1, 2016 Report Share Posted September 1, 2016 I pulled my charcoal basket out on the wrong angle a clipped the edge was devastating lol but have since cooked and have no problems. My fault just have to be more careful I lot of weight in the basket and gratesOutback Kamado Bar and Grill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DennisLinkletter Posted September 1, 2016 Report Share Posted September 1, 2016 I was just using one of the flat SS plates from the basket splitter as a fixed/edge/blade to chop up two boxes of coco char and the edge sitting on the lip of the grill had a chunk missing after 50 wacks from the coco logs.. ARGH if this was a new 32" I would have cried.. will post image 2morrow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DennisLinkletter Posted September 1, 2016 Report Share Posted September 1, 2016 I will have the guys make up some lip repair kits and a video how to patch them... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Pearson Posted September 1, 2016 Report Share Posted September 1, 2016 Dennis to the rescue again. I haven't chipped my KK yet but also haven't used it that much. I now will be extra careful when using it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xraydoc Posted September 2, 2016 Report Share Posted September 2, 2016 Thanks Dennis! I also chipped mine on the second cook. I would definitely be interested in a lip repair kit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stile88 Posted October 9, 2016 Report Share Posted October 9, 2016 The hairline crack that churchi has in picture of his kk i have 3 of them on that lip going to gasket is this normal ??? It dont look like it will affect performance but not nice to see to say the least Do i need to patch it btw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DennisLinkletter Posted October 10, 2016 Report Share Posted October 10, 2016 There is no escaping physics.. your grill will expand when heated. The hairline cracks in the grout are indications of where this is taking place. Nothing to worry about at all. Impossible for these to grow into structural cracks that would affect the structural integrity of your grill. If you would like anything please send a note to Customer Service @ Komodo Kamado.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stile88 Posted October 11, 2016 Report Share Posted October 11, 2016 7 hours ago, DennisLinkletter said: There is no escaping physics.. your grill will expand when heated. The hairline cracks in the grout are indications of where this is taking place. Nothing to worry about at all. Impossible for these to grow into structural cracks that would affect the structural integrity of your grill. If you would like anything please send a note to Customer Service @ Komodo Kamado.com Dennis i think you should patent your cant escape physics line lol Ok so just so i am not confused you are saying grout and the hair line cracks are on lip of my grill which is the refractory not grout If there is patch or whatever for this i would like some thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DennisLinkletter Posted October 11, 2016 Report Share Posted October 11, 2016 16 hours ago, Stile88 said: Dennis i think you should patent your cant escape physics line lol Ok so just so i am not confused you are saying grout and the hair line cracks are on lip of my grill which is the refractory not grout If there is patch or whatever for this i would like some thanks The paper thin cosmetic traditional black grout coating on the lip is not flexible and tears as the dense refractory material it's sitting on expands. I believe we made up some repair kits when this post started let me check and see if it's on the container that is on the water. But filling the tears/cracks will not prevent them from opening next time your grill gets super heated. BTW all grills move the same amount.. some will create 15 micro tears that all add up to X others might have 7 that all add up to X and other might have 2 large ones that add up to X. You will get X movement at x temp.. how it presents itself is different with each grill. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stile88 Posted October 11, 2016 Report Share Posted October 11, 2016 4 hours ago, DennisLinkletter said: The paper thin cosmetic traditional black grout coating on the lip is not flexible and tears as the dense refractory material it's sitting on expands. I believe we made up some repair kits when this post started let me check and see if it's on the container that is on the water. But filling the tears/cracks will not prevent them from opening next time your grill gets super heated. BTW all grills move the same amount.. some will create 15 micro tears that all add up to X others might have 7 that all add up to X and other might have 2 large ones that add up to X. You will get X movement at x temp.. how it presents itself is different with each grill. Thanks for explanation when you are talking super heated are you talking about temps over 500 or 600 cause i havent been past 500 except for burn in I get what you are saying but i still want the kit so send it to me when you get these thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...