bbqPete Posted August 14, 2011 Report Share Posted August 14, 2011 Hello, I am a new member in the final purchase decision. Could someone please let me know if they have the rotisserie option for their KK and whether they like it? If so, would you recommend the larger rotisserie holder or the smaller rotisserie holder? Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bryan Posted August 14, 2011 Report Share Posted August 14, 2011 Re: To Rotis or Not To Rotis I think most have both but if I was only buying one I would buy the large. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tnt Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 Re: To Rotis or Not To Rotis I have both. If you are only going to get one basket I would choose the large one. Tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadMedik Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 Re: To Rotis or Not To Rotis I got the large. First time I did Cornish game hens....small chicken....1 fell out to a fiery death. I then ordered a small one. I would get both. They both have their uses. If only one, small Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrnitpicky Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 Re: To Rotis or Not To Rotis I've had both for over a year, and have never used the large. Everything I've ever wanted to cook fit in the small. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbqPete Posted August 15, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 Re: To Rotis or Not To Rotis I appreciate the response from everyone. Thank you. I will go with the large and the small. Any recommendations on the Guru temperature control equipment? Thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LATrapp Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 Re: To Rotis or Not To Rotis I also highly recommend the baskets in this post: viewtopic.php?f=33&t=4216&p=38219#p38219 They create a gap for drippings so they don't fall into the coals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mguerra Posted August 16, 2011 Report Share Posted August 16, 2011 Re: To Rotis or Not To Rotis The Guru buttonology is easier but the Stoker more accurately controls the temp. Navigating the menus and entering inputs is a weirdo process on the Stoker. The stoker shuts off the airflow completely when its' fan is off. The guru sliding draft door stays open. You have to figure out how open to leave it to maintain your desired temp. DON'T leave it wide open for a cook in the 200's!!! I prefer the stoker, but have to relearn it every time I use it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teddysurf Posted August 16, 2011 Report Share Posted August 16, 2011 Re: To Rotis or Not To Rotis I had a similar question about the Stoker vs. Guru and had not got around to posting my question regarding shutoff and snuffing out the fire. So, when the Stoker is turned off after the cook it effectively "closes" the draft door? Also, once the Stoker is installed do people simply leave it installed? If so, how robust is it to rain etc? I hope my questions are not diverting the intent of this thread. If so, my apologies and I'll start a new thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mguerra Posted August 16, 2011 Report Share Posted August 16, 2011 Re: To Rotis or Not To Rotis When you finish a cook with either device, you should remove the fan unit so you can fully close off the port to snuff the fire. Although the Guru fan, with its' slider door shut, and the Stoker fan, which closes its' draft door, are fairly airtight, they are not 100% airtight. We have a number of folks here who have experienced the inability to snuff the fire if there is even a tiny airleak anywhere in the system. Guru and Stoker also both state the fan is not waterproof. Yank the fan and plug the hole. For cooking in the rain, we have rigged a few rain covers for the fans and control boxes: http://gallery.me.com/mpguerra#100119 You can also use zip lock bags and any other creative solutions; there are a number of ideas here on the forums, perhaps folks will repost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loquitur Posted August 16, 2011 Report Share Posted August 16, 2011 Re: To Rotis or Not To Rotis The Guru buttonology is easier but the Stoker more accurately controls the temp. Navigating the menus and entering inputs is a weirdo process on the Stoker.....I prefer the stoker' date=' but have to relearn it every time I use it.[/quote'] Doc: Funny you should mention the buttonology on the Stoker. It works exactly like the remotes for my Lexicon theater processors. When I got my first one years ago, it annoyed me to no end that I had to get out the manual to make the slightest adjustment - especially when people praised the product for its versatility and intuitive user interface. But then, all of a sudden, after a couple of years, I caught on to it. If its any help, the middle 2 buttons with the arrows are for scrolling through the options, the far right button is the select button and to the left of the arrow buttons is the escape one level button. So you are mostly using the arrow buttons to run through the options, then you move over to the right to choose something, then back to the arrow buttons to further scroll through the new choices, back to the right to select, etc. And if you make a mistake, you go left of the arrow buttons to escape and go back to where you were or, if you keep hitting it, you get back to the beginning. Susan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbqPete Posted August 17, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 Re: To Rotis or Not To Rotis Wow! Learned a lot. I appreciate all the good input. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadMedik Posted August 17, 2011 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 Re: To Rotis or Not To Rotis If you are computer and network capable, the stoker can work thru the wifi and you can control everything through your computer or smart phone. Once connected, you will not need to touch the stoker controls. It is all done through Internet or the Stoker Log program. Internet controls are MUCH EASIER then controls on just the stoker. And you can control from home, work, car or wherever. Don't think guru has Internet controllability, but I maybe wrong on that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teddysurf Posted August 17, 2011 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 Re: To Rotis or Not To Rotis Thanks very much for the insights. How much of a hassle is it to put the fan back on and pull it off after each cook? 2 minutes? ... 5 minutes with colorful language? ... 12 minutes, send the wife and kids on an errand and warn the neighbors??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loquitur Posted August 17, 2011 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 Re: To Rotis or Not To Rotis Its more of a hassle trying to protect it from the weather than putting it on and pulling it off the KK - definitely less than 2 min. I agree totally that its easiest to control the Stoker online - not to mention just plain fun. But I have to use the buttons to get started because my router constantly changes the Stoker IP address on me and I have to go in there manually with the buttons to find out what it is on any given day. After that, I control it with my computer all the way. Susan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mguerra Posted August 17, 2011 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 Re: To Rotis or Not To Rotis The blower fan just shoves in and out the port, takes about one second to put it in or take it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teddysurf Posted August 17, 2011 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 Re: To Rotis or Not To Rotis Wow ... much easier than I anticipated. And how do you plug the hole post-cook? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mguerra Posted August 17, 2011 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 Re: To Rotis or Not To Rotis One of our members sells silicone plugs. The Guru comes with a silicone plug. I don't know if John has one for the Stoker or not, or if Dennis supplies one or not. Creative minds can rig something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokincyclist Posted August 17, 2011 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 Re: To Rotis or Not To Rotis The Stoker does not have a plug. I was interested in buying the new wi-fi unit, and I called Stoker to see if with the flap down on the blower whether the KK became airtight. They said there is still a gap, and recommended a silicone plug. Anyone out there know where to buy such a plug? If a member sells such a plug, please contact me. Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mguerra Posted August 18, 2011 Report Share Posted August 18, 2011 Re: To Rotis or Not To Rotis The new KK's have a Guru sized port. You can probably buy the plug from Guru. Doesn't matter if you have a Stoker. The plug just fits the hole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
