mguerra Posted September 14, 2010 Report Share Posted September 14, 2010 The first three were at 225 on the KK. The last one was at 300 on the KK, for a faster cook. These lean roasts just dry out if cooked slowly. Now, I did do a standing rib roast kind of lowish and slowish once, but that is a more tender and more marbled cut that responded well to that sort of cook. So when I use the term "roast" in this discussion I mean the lean tough ones. The round is from a working thigh muscle, if I recall, and it is NOT tender! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bryan Posted September 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2010 The first three were at 225 on the KK. The last one was at 300 on the KK' date=' for a faster cook. These lean roasts just dry out if cooked slowly. Now, I did do a standing rib roast kind of lowish and slowish once, but that is a more tender and more marbled cut that responded well to that sort of cook. So when I use the term "roast" in this discussion I mean the lean tough ones. The round is from a working thigh muscle, if I recall, and it is NOT tender![/quote'] Thanks. That is a help for me. I know you were not below 150. So my game is still on. Thanks. On my first one the temp ran away. Today I am again going to try for a tender med cooked eye (135-140). I have been working w/Ralph since 10 am. Thought I had temp locked at 130 deg, but at 1:42 it took off again. I have worked it back down to 154 from its run to 175. My desired Kooking temp is 130-140 Pull at 140 NO foil. And yes it is a TOUGH cut. That is the challenge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paswesley Posted September 15, 2010 Report Share Posted September 15, 2010 Thanks, Doc. Your explanation about why the round that I cooked came out so tough makes a lot of sense. I have a ten quart flat bottomed potjie pot that should be the perfect cast iron pot for the cook that you suggest. However, I am reluctant to use an acidic base because previously, whenever I have cooked anything acidic, it would destroy the seasoning on the interior of the pot. Do you think that a non-acidic soup/stew base would come out equally tender as an acidic base? Paswesley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mguerra Posted September 15, 2010 Report Share Posted September 15, 2010 I don't really know, but my Lodge dutch oven does fine with the recipe I referenced. Let's see if I can find that recipe... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mguerra Posted September 15, 2010 Report Share Posted September 15, 2010 Here's one link with photos: viewtopic.php?t=2961&start=75 And here's the original recipe: http://primogrillforum.com/forums/showt ... +pork+stew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paswesley Posted September 15, 2010 Report Share Posted September 15, 2010 Thanks, Doc. I'll give it a try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paswesley Posted September 15, 2010 Report Share Posted September 15, 2010 Hey Dennis: if you're looking, I have a question. Of course, I don't want to void my warranty, so I want to check with you first. My potjie pot weighs around twenty-five pounds empty. By the time I add ingredients, it could conceivably weigh 40 pounds. Allow another ten pounds, in case the potjie is heavier than I think. Can the ceramic rim and the lower grill bear up under the weight? Do you think the grill will bend under the weight and de-form? Thanks, Paswesley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bryan Posted September 18, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2010 Hey Doc What do you think of the Pic"s? http://www.komodokamado.com/forum/viewt ... highlight= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mguerra Posted September 18, 2010 Report Share Posted September 18, 2010 Beautiful! so, was it tender and flavorful enough? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bryan Posted September 18, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2010 Beautiful! so' date=' was it tender and flavorful enough?[/quote'] You could cut it with a fork. I used mayo w/Red Top rub for a super flavor that just accented the beef taste. There was no gray area on this eye roast as shown in pictures. This sure puts an end to the myth of tough roast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slu Posted September 18, 2010 Report Share Posted September 18, 2010 Thanks' date=' Doc. Your explanation about why the round that I cooked came out so tough makes a lot of sense. I have a ten quart flat bottomed potjie pot that should be the perfect cast iron pot for the cook that you suggest. However, I am reluctant to use an acidic base because previously, whenever I have cooked anything acidic, it would destroy the seasoning on the interior of the pot. Do you think that a non-acidic soup/stew base would come out equally tender as an acidic base? Paswesley[/quote'] Use a Le Creuset enameled cast iron pot (or similar product). The acid from the tomatoes or wine will not affect it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...