Could someone undelete the thread I just deleted?

[John A]

Should be getting my grill tomorrow. Hopefully I'll be able to get it unpacked before going to work. If not as soon as I get home. Going to be an exciting day! I'll get as many pics as I can. First cook this weekend. Not sure what yet. Any suggestions?

Edited September 15, 2016 by John A

[churchi]

4 minutes ago, billg71 said:

I think you should just do away with it. I've been tramping around internet forums for 16 years and I've never seen one where a user could delete or hide a reply(much less a whole thread) without asking a mod. Usually the best you can do if you put your foot in your mouth is edit the post and delete everything.

If you can tweak it to hide only your reply that would be OK but being able to effectively delete the whole topic means you're giving the initiator the power to hide all the responses from others who participated. I don't think that's really a good thing. Essentially, you're promoting anyone who starts a thread to moderator status for that thread. And I doubt members who put time and effort into responding to that thread would appreciate their labors disappearing just because the OP decided he didn't like what he'd started.

That's, for me, what forums are all about. Everyone gets their chance to speak their mind and, if they're not obnoxious about it, their thoughts will be there forever. Others can search and see what was said years after the thread has died a natural death. Giving any random user the power to obliterate the work of others is, to me, contrary to the spirit of a forum.

Damn, I got wound up, didn't I? Apologies, I don't usually haul out the soapbox this early in the evening. I guess it's just being a Yank and the "Freedom of Speech" thing.

Anyway, you asked...

Thanks for taking the time to follow up on this.

Best,

Bill

Thanks for the reply @billg71, i completely agree with you. I have disabled the hide and delete your own content feature here. Great points you raised and i dont want to see content going missing either. If there is an issue with a post a mod or admin can help to adjust it.

Appreciate your time in helping to get this issue found and a fix put in place.

[billg71]

Thanks, @churchi. The thread I inadvertently deleted was just a "Hi, I'm here" thread but there were a dozen or so responses and I feel bad that those are gone forever. I think it's a good thing that we don't have the opportunity to hit the wrong button and lose a moment it time.

Best,

Bill

[Stile88]

1 hour ago, churchi said:

 

So @Stile88, Would it be best to allow users not to delete their post, rather just hide it? I think this will solve the issue that @billg71 came across where the post was accidentally deleted.

Well my thinking is if you correct the issue with bill not having mod tools there will be no need to allow users not to delete

i didnt realize that you were giving physical delete to mods i ran into issues years ago when i allowed that option to my staff and same issues arose so i decided to only have admin have those powers and i have never had a problem since but each forum is different .

i have also had issues with modifications causing secondary permissions issues like this where it gives users mod powers cause the way the coders coded the mod the scripts were off . the pia on that is you have to turn off each modification one by one till you find the problem one 

 

[churchi]

17 minutes ago, Stile88 said:

Well my thinking is if you correct the issue with bill not having mod tools there will be no need to allow users not to delete

i didnt realize that you were giving physical delete to mods i ran into issues years ago when i allowed that option to my staff and same issues arose so i decided to only have admin have those powers and i have never had a problem since but each forum is different .

i have also had issues with modifications causing secondary permissions issues like this where it gives users mod powers cause the way the coders coded the mod the scripts were off . the pia on that is you have to turn off each modification one by one till you find the problem one 

 

It seems i cant allow users to delete or hide their replies without allowing them to hide/delete their topics as well. I was not aware the users had that option, it much have been setup like that before i came on board. Im glad someone had pointed out the issue, so i have been able to quickly fix it up. so thanks to @billg71 and @Stile88 for fine tuning this.

@Stile88 spot on, the (s)mods had access (before my time here) to delete posts from any user. I have now removed this so they can now only hide them, so the content can still be left behind and only admins can delete posts. This should keep things consistent (not that there ever was a problem in the past).

Thanks for your help on this. I will move this thread to the forum improvements section.