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  1. bryan

    The "Stall"

    Re: The "Stall" Stupid is as stupid does. You were smart enough to find the question. I suggest you follow through and find the answer. Some day in your cooking you may need that magic bullet. That is cooking and paying attention to results. If you decide to follow through please post your findings.
  2. bryan

    The "Stall"

    Re: The "Stall" "Fat can only be rendered in a dry cooking environment over a long period of time and at low temperatures. Here is what happens . . . the meat must attain a temperature of 160½ - 170½ to start the fat rendering process. At these temps, the meat temperature will 'plateau' . . . that is, it will stay at these temps for up to 2 hours on ribs and 4 and 5 hours on butts and briskets. What is happening is, the collagen (connective tissue) starts to break down . . . this process releases water, which in turn causes a cooling of the meat. So the temps stay steady. This collagen breakdown is what makes meat so tender." And that is why I care. Wonderful controlled extended charcoal cooking.
  3. Re: V Pills for those on the go They are your V-Pills use them when you want to!!
  4. bryan

    The "Stall"

    Re: The "Stall" I have no idea from your last description. except..... Try not using the pan. (that seems to be a second heat deflector) Whatever you do ... please don't stop till you find the answer. Could cooking in a pan be equal to foil??? Good problem catch 5698k.
  5. Re: Mail Order Bride It is always a pleasure to help someone who wants to learn. A small kindness can touch so many. We can all take a lesson from Paswesleys "Little Black Book"
  6. Re: Mail Order Bride Search the site for heat control info and you will master the unit fast. It is faster to learn to nudge the heat up than to bring the heat down. READ, READ, READ. (Master low and slow heat control) Fastest way to decrease heat is to close unit down and wait. To master low and slow heat control is to master Komodo-Kamado cooking. Don't be bashful. Ask questions. Someone will answer. We all have been where you are. Welcome to the forum.
  7. bryan

    The "Stall"

    Re: The "Stall" In the "Search" box (top right) search "stall"
  8. bryan

    The "Stall"

    Re: The "Stall" If you are using foil there will be no stall. You need to post more info on your cooks.
  9. bryan

    hello

    Re: hello Whats that name again?
  10. This is info I use in my on going cooking education. Most was gathered from the web. It is offered to hopefully assist the learning curve for those that like to experiment and be creative. (Example: Easy to see what to expect when temp is turned off at "x" internal degrees) The importance of good thermometers: Meat can go from succulent to sucky in just a few minutes and the only way to know for sure if meat is cooked properly is with a digital oven thermometer and a digital meat thermometer. Overcook meat and you've wasted your money. Undercook it and you can give someone a tummy ache or much worse. This is the 21st century. The digital age. Stop using 19th century technology. Ditch your dial telephone and your dial thermometer. There's even a cool one for your iPhone. What else happens when you cook: As the internal temp of your meat rises, its color is not the only thing that changes. A number of chemical and physical reactions take place, especially as proteins, fats, and collagens denature, which is to say their molecular structure is altered by the heat. These temps are approximate because other variables come into play such as the age of the animal, acidity, salt content, type of heat, etc. This info has been gathered from multiple sources including meat science research papers, textbooks, and Harold McGee's important book, On Food And Cooking. Note to me from forum member: fyi the 2 proteins in muscle are actin and myosin. (All notes are welcomed). 32°F Water freezes. It expands as it freezes and sharp edged crystals form that can rupture cell walls creating "purge", or the outflow of liquid, mostly myoglobin, when it is thawed. 34-39°F Ideal refrigerator temperature. Microbial growth is minimized and water is not frozen. 40-140°F This is the microbial "danger zone" in which bacteria grow most rapidly, doubling in number in as little as 20 minutes. 60°F Gelatin from melted collagens in meat forms a solid gel called aspic. 95°F Aspic starts melting. 95–110°F Fats start to soften. 95-122°F Calpain enzymes get antsy and accelerate tenderizing in beef. Note: (Ref line 3 above) Keeping meat's internal temperature below 122 degrees as long as possible allowed the meat's enzymes to act as natural tenderizers, breaking down its tough connective tissue (this action stops at 122 degrees). 104°F Mycosin protein in fish begins to denature. 120°F Some fluids get milky. Red meats start pinking. Sugars move to the surface. 122°F Mycosin protein in meat begins to denature. 130°F Bacteria begin to die, slowly at first, but as temp rises, they croak more rapidly. At this temp it takes two hours to pasteurize meat. This is the minimum safe temp for holding foods for serving. 130-135°F Target temp for medium rare lamb chops and beef steaks, the temperature at which they are at optimum tenderness, flavor, and juiciness. 130-140°F Fats begin to melt and render (liquefy). 140°F Collagens begin to denature and contract and squeeze lots of juice from muscle fibers. 140°F Myoglobin denatures and red or pink juices begin to turn clear or tan and bead up on the surface. 150°F Actin protein begins to denature making meat tougher and drier. 155°F Well done for most meats. Most (but not all) bacteria killed in about 23 seconds but spores can survive much higher temps. 150-165°F This is "The Stall Zone/plateau", when large cuts like pork butt and beef brisket seem to be stuck for hours because moisture evaporates rapidly cooling the meat like sweat on an athlete. Inexperienced cooks panic. Eventually temps start rising again. Whew! 160-180°F Collagens begin to melt and form gelatin. 165°F This is the so called instant kill temp at which bacteria die almost instantly. When you reheat foods you should take them up to this temp. 212°F Water boils. 225°F Ideal low and slow cooking temp for pork and beef ribs, beef brisket, and pork shoulder for pulled pork. 230°F Fructose (such as honey) begins to caramelize. 250°F Pork fat begins to smoke. 310°F Maillard reaction (dark browning) accelerates. 320°F Glucose (such as table sugar) caramelizes. 325°F Ideal cooking temp for crisping chicken skins and browning meats because it is higher than the Maillard reaction and caramelization temps. 350°F Sugar in spice rubs begin to burn. 570-750°F Primary combustion. Hardwood smolders and releases large quantities of unburned gases including smoke. 1110°F Secondary combustion. Gases, cellulose, and lignin in wood burn rapidly if sufficient oxygen is present. Water content of meats: Meat is mostly water. Here's how much: Meat ...Percent Water ...............Raw ...Cooked Chicken fryer, whole ..................66%....60% White meat chicken, with skin...69%....61% Dark meat chicken, with skin....66%....59% Ground beef, 85% lean .............64%....60% Ground beef, 73% lean .............56%....55% Beef, eye of round ....................73%....65% Beef, whole brisket ...................71%....56% Source: USDA Nowadays, a lot of meats, especially turkey, are marked "enhanced" or "basted" or "self-basting". That means they have salt water injected into the meat. This adds some flavor and as much as 15% weight which adds profit. (Naturally, the water content of these products will be higher than shown in the table here) With that much water in the meat, any loss you might have from stabbing it with a thermometer or an occasional stab with a fork is minor, so don't let the snobs tell you that you are going to ruin the meat if you use a fork to turn it. How altitude changes things: Here's a good question from a reader: "Where I live, boiling temperature is about 203°F due to altitude (4670'). Does the temperature at which collagen melts also change with altitude? Does high altitude cooking mean I should be keeping the smoker temperature at a different temperature than if I were at sea level?" Boiling temp drops as altitude increases because the air pressure is lower (the column of air pushing down on the food surface is shorter) and the amount of energy to convert liquid water to gaseous water (steam) is less. Air pressure- however, does not impact melting temps or combustion temps. They are not dependent on air pressure. As you go up in altitude food and cooking surfaces cool faster and conduct heat slower because evaporation occurs at lower temps and evaporation cools things. As to cooker temp, 225°F is a good number at sea level because moisture in the meat will not evaporate much at that temp because the meat is colder than the air around it. Since boiling temp is about 9°F lower where you are, you could take the cooker down to 216°F to help preserve moisture. Here's a rule of thumb for cooking at altitude: Boiling point goes down about 2°F for every 1000 feet above sea level. What causes properly cooked pork and poultry to be pink, even if it is not smoked: Several factors: Gases in the atmosphere of an oven can react with hemoglobin in meat and turn it pink. (especially on the outer edges) They occur in all ovens, especially those that heat by combustion such as gas, charcoal, or wood. They even are present in electric ovens. When grilling or smoking, there are more of these gases. They more easily penetrate the thinner skin and fat layers of younger animals, so age of the animal is also a factor. Also, meats with high levels of naturally occurring compounds such as myoglobin, hemo-protein, and cytochrome C are more likely to turn pink. Nitrites in meat can also cause pinking. (Nitrites are converted from nitrates in feed and water by microorganisms that are in the animal) The best way to test for doneness of any meat is to use a food thermometer. Color is not a reliable guide. Why is red meat sometimes bright red on the outside and dull gray on the inside: Fresh cut beef is purplish in color. Oxygen reacts with oxymyoglobin, the pigments in red meat, to form the bright red color of meat in the grocery store. The interior of the meat may be gray or brown because oxygen has not penetrated into the muscle. *** If, however, all the meat in the package has turned gray or brown, it may be spoiling. I hope this helps ascertain some of the questions posted on the forum.
  11. bryan

    help me decide!

    Re: help me decide! What color does your better half like? (of all the colors)
  12. Re: First two cooks on the KK... Get a Van and take it with you.
  13. Re: "Fuel Efficiency" Thank you Harold. Should you decide to return to the forum I will try to be more gracious. Please do not let any of this stand in the way of your decisions about this great cooker. I suggest that you talk to Dennis directly
  14. 1 cup chicken dark meat cooked broken into bite size pieces 8 green onions (white and green chopped) 2 tablespoons soy sauce (I use La Choy) 3 cups broccoli florets 1/2 cup oil hot In a medium size bowl: Place chicken, onions, soy sauce. (mix) Add broccoli on top. (do not mix) Heat oil to almost smoking. (BE CAREFUL) Drizzle hot oil over broccoli. (do at table for crackle affect) (Set remainder aside) Stir/Mix chicken and broccoli. Serve immediately while hot. Note: I pour and mix at table just before I sit down.
  15. bryan

    Go Alongs

    Re: Go Alongs Not yet. But with all this ..... There has to be a pony in here somewhere.
  16. bryan

    Go Alongs

    For those that want to know... http://www.justmixrecipes.com/index.html
  17. Re: Gasket install I bought my Komodo-Kamado in 2008 and have had no gasket problem. In fact I have had no problems of any kind. Best investment I ever made.
  18. bryan

    burnt birdie

    Re: burnt birdie Ah yes... we are the nuts that work the lid.
  19. Re: Set up for Spatchcocked Chicken This may help... http://blogs.usda.gov/2011/05/25/cookin ... peratures/
  20. bryan

    burnt birdie

    Re: burnt birdie no matter how hard you guys try... you just can't screw these units up. The only problem with the Komodo-Kamado is the "NUT" that works the lid.
  21. Re: "Fuel Efficiency" When I google the posted reference.... They speak for themselves. The Komodo-Kamado search results.... also speak for themselves. The Komodo-Kamado is top of the line investment that represents a lifetime of outstanding cooking in many and various ways. I am only sorry that I did not find it sooner. In my 74 years never have I heard of another company that all owners are happy customers. The few problems that have been posted were all addressed by the company within hours. (All satisfactorily addressed to the customers satisfaction) When one says their unit will out perform a Komodo-Kamado I'm not buying it. The proof is in the pudding!! Good luck with your unit. Glad you are happy.
  22. Re: Baby Backs and a Bird There is no excuse for bad manners. Harold's presence should be most obvious by his absence.
  23. Re: "Fuel Efficiency" Harold This really does not seem like the forum you are looking for. I suggest that you advertise your product else where. J H Bryan
  24. Re: Baby Backs and a Bird I second that!
  25. Re: Small Slow Cooked Standing Rib Roast After the roast rest 15-20 min I super cool it. (Bag it and drop in cold water) Then do the 500 plus. Works for me... but i do admit I didn't get it right the first time around.
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