David Chang Posted November 16, 2022 Report Share Posted November 16, 2022 Effeuno makes high powered commercial level single phase pizza ovens that go up to 509C/948F. I have never seen anything that runs off a regular household plug (UK 220v) that can go this hot.. This model, with the higher roof arrived last week but today was my first run at it. Bakes on a thick saputo stone (italian clay). Top element around 450c. Bottom around 425c. Worked pretty well. wasn't counting the time but i reckon this was less than 2 min to cook. Bottom cooked very nicely. Kind of makes my ALFA obsolete. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poochie Posted November 19, 2022 Report Share Posted November 19, 2022 Isn't your Alfa a wood fired cooker? Do you taste any difference in the pizza between cookers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Chang Posted November 19, 2022 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, Poochie said: Isn't your Alfa a wood fired cooker? Do you taste any difference in the pizza between cookers? my alfa runs on wood or propane gas, but i don't taste a huge difference between wood, gas, or electric. i'm with the group that says once you cook at such high temps, you don't really taste a big difference.. the effeuno is the better pizza oven in several aspects. it is basically a dream to operate an oven like this indoors. * push button operation (just turn on and wait for it to warmup). and keeps temp all day long with no intervention just like a home oven. * regarding browning and bottom scorch resistance, the Saputo stone (mined clay) is superior to the refractory brick on the alfa, or any other surface i've used (including steels, cordierite, and the kk baking stone). it's just a fat piece of mass to heat up that is very forgiving when browning bottoms. * less fuss to manage heat. no need to measure floor temp once the temps are dialed in. no gas bottles to replace. wood can maintain pizza heat for about 12-15 min, so no need to manage fire with electric. * almost no cleanup. just brush dusting semolina/flour after a cook. * in terms of speed, the effeuno can go hotter in less time (smaller oven to heat up). to get the alfa to pizza temps, it takes longer (bigger over/more thermal mass) and more wood. * excellent view of the food with 3 sheets of glass on the door and a very bright oven light. * parts are user replaceable and quality is restaurant level. however, the effeuno is not an outdoor oven. i probably wouldn't cook a steak or non-bread foods (too messy). pizza size is limited to 12-13". probably more expensive to run electricity, and as far as i know only runs on 220v grids. Edited November 19, 2022 by David Chang 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poochie Posted November 20, 2022 Report Share Posted November 20, 2022 I like everything you're saying about it except the "only runs on 220v part" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Chang Posted November 20, 2022 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2022 2 hours ago, Poochie said: I like everything you're saying about it except the "only runs on 220v part" i feel you. there are so many japanese appliances i want that run on 120v only that i either buy giant transformers for them all or just move to japan entirely. 😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Chang Posted December 15, 2022 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2022 morning pizza in the effeuno. 90 second cook. 450C/840F 7835cd333f594852804900d79cffce14.mov 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonj Posted December 15, 2022 Report Share Posted December 15, 2022 Cool video! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Chang Posted March 13 Author Report Share Posted March 13 nothing pizza. just some flake salt and olive oil. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Chang Posted May 26 Author Report Share Posted May 26 made a steak pizza for lunch. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C6Bill Posted May 26 Report Share Posted May 26 Looks great !!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syzygies Posted May 28 Report Share Posted May 28 (edited) On 11/20/2022 at 1:09 AM, Poochie said: I like everything you're saying about it except the "only runs on 220v part" We put in 230v for our hybrid gas range / electric oven. The outlet work looks trivial; one pays for running appropriate wire and knowing how to add such a line to an already full junction box. If one ever does this (I was out of town or I would have hovered), mark the acceptable region with masking tape, and insist on seeing the work before letting the crew push the range back into place. My electrician was good at what he does, but could have found a better job had he actually been able to read a manual page. He installed the outlet in the wrong spot, range won't push all the way in. On my to-do list to move the outlet a bit; I've been busy. Just back from Japan. Edited May 28 by Syzygies 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syzygies Posted May 28 Report Share Posted May 28 The P134H is $1,461 stateside. What model is yours? Effeuno Pizza Oven P134H 509 + Biscotto Clay Stone (Are you ok if my wife takes your name in vain, until she tastes the pizza?) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Chang Posted May 29 Author Report Share Posted May 29 7 hours ago, Syzygies said: The P134H is $1,461 stateside. What model is yours? Effeuno Pizza Oven P134H 509 + Biscotto Clay Stone (Are you ok if my wife takes your name in vain, until she tastes the pizza?) yeah I'm ok with that. she will need to fly to hong kong to taste test the pizza. 😂 i have the HA model. https://www.fornogourmet.com/product-page/effeuno-p134ha-500-c-saputo-stone i have not needed the extra headroom but i would say the H would suffice. this machine is an engineering marvel. you can touch the surface (still hot but it won't kill you) at 500C Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Chang Posted September 10 Author Report Share Posted September 10 relentless rain is keeping my cooks indoors some breakfast pizza from frozen dough 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
