ThreeDJ16 Posted August 21, 2007 Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Salt Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 "Delicated" meats? Is delicate a verb in Canadia? Or maybe they mean deli cased meats? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulR Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 I have a foodie wife and she knew (but she doesn't know too much about fighter planes or PC's so we're even I reckon) Googling: Delicated: Describes an item that has been tenderized, by passing through a “cube steak†machine or pounding with a meat mallet, in order to break up connective tissue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
primeats Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 The USDA has revised all or most of their temp. guidelines, in any event these are finished temps. If you remove product from heat source at these temps you will have a severely overdone product. As many have noted on this forum before, remove most items well before being done, let sit, and then serve. This of course won't apply to less tender cuts such as shoulders of most meats.The remove early part,that is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porkchop Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 good advice prime! there's usually a 10 degree carryover too. for them that use meat thermo's, take it off 10 degrees b4 you hit your target temp. only thing i usually take temps on is chicken. otherwise, i let the meat tell me when its done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreeDJ16 Posted September 7, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 Yeah, this was 30 second grab off the internet post as someone requested it. I agree that is a good point about carry over temp, but the chart does indicate doneness temps (finish temps); so I hope nobody got the wrong idea from it. If anyone has a pic of a later and greater chart, I would be happy to replace this one? -=Jasen=- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porkchop Posted September 8, 2007 Report Share Posted September 8, 2007 hey, bottom line, it will keep you safe! maybe not the best taste-wise, but safe... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruzmisl Posted September 12, 2007 Report Share Posted September 12, 2007 Ah, even compensating for the carryover, you're sure to have a dry @ss product if you follow these guidelines. It sure is "safe" but won't taste good. I pull chicken at 160 and pork at 140. Steaks 120 max Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rorkin Posted September 13, 2007 Report Share Posted September 13, 2007 Way overcooked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dub Posted September 14, 2007 Report Share Posted September 14, 2007 Way overcooked true dat. Nobody at my abode is preggers, elderly,toddler or below, OR immunocompromised. So I Laugh at the Silly Rules! If you don't want your char-rare wonderfully black&bleu ribeye that I just flopped onto yer plate I'll be happy to ruin it to your heart's delight. Just send it back and I'll shoeleatherize it to your specifications. Cuz that's how I roll dub(figgering we didn't have these regs back in the Cro-Magnon days and we've come along just fine, thanky) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreeDJ16 Posted September 14, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2007 I guess that is why they say opinions are like as everybody has one (now here is mine ). No way I am eating a rare steak, mine is gonna be medium. And anyone who has ever had food poisoning from undercooked chicken, myself included, would rather have a little dryness than the alternative. Personally I haven't experienced dry chicken at these temps cooking whole birds on rotis or spatchcock cooking (especially on ceramics). Though I could see it being an issue if you half or quarter the bird. I strongly believe techniques play a huge part in the end results and do not think you can definitely say your food will be dry, no matter what methods used, at a given (reasonable) temp. -=Jasen=- Anyway, chart is a reference only. Here is a US chart, but it looks the same. The US Department of Agriculture says the following temperatures will produce safely cooked, but still flavorful meats: Meat Internal Temp. Centigrade Fresh ground beef, veal, lamb, pork 160°F 71°C Beef, veal, lamb roasts, steaks, chops: medium rare 145°F 63°C Beef, veal, lamb roasts, steaks, chops: medium 160°F 71°C Beef, veal, lamb roasts, steaks, chops: well done 170°F 77°C Fresh pork roasts, steaks, chops: medium 160°F 71°C Fresh pork roasts, steaks, chops: well done 170°F 77°C Ham: cooked before eating 160°F 71°C Ham: fully cooked, to reheat 140°F 60°C Ground chicken/turkey 165° F 74°C Whole chicken/turkey 180° F 82°C Poultry breasts, roasts 170° F 77°C Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mguerra Posted August 14, 2008 Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 You better be careful with chicken. I've seen a patient permanently paralyzed from side effects of food poisoning from eating chicken not fully cooked. Ever heard of Guillain-Barre syndrome? It can be an after effect from food poisoning. You don't need to convert your chicken to shoe leather, just be sure it's done! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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linuxwrangler Posted August 15, 2008 Report Share Posted August 15, 2008 I test cuts like pork-loin and pork-chops carefully with my Thermapen and pull at 137 or a touch higher. From my reading, trichinosis is killed at that temperature so my safety margin is the 10+ degrees the temperature rises while settling. The speed/accuracy of the Thermapen has given me the tool I need to make great (read: not shoe-leather) pork. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...