tlinder Posted August 16, 2006 Report Posted August 16, 2006 I did the following yesterday: Filled the lumpsaver completly with coal Heated up the grill to 350 Grad Fahrenheit Kept the temperature on 350 for 3 hours with the head deflector on Closed all holes to extinguish the fire The next morning there was only a very small amount of coal left: I had the idea that the KK can run for more than 24 hours withour refilling the lumpsaver but the coal you can see on the picture would be sure now enough for another 21 hours. Is perhaps my KK now properly sealed when the upper and the lower hole is closed or where could the problem be?
Curly Posted August 16, 2006 Report Posted August 16, 2006 How many lbs of lump did it take to fill up the lumpsaver? 350 degrees will burn a lot faster than 225'ish...which is what temps people do the all nighters with. I'd think close to a 10 lb bag for an all nighter though. Course I don't have a KK yet, so what do I know?
ThreeDJ16 Posted August 16, 2006 Report Posted August 16, 2006 ! Well, one thing to note; when people say they ran their grill for 24 hours they are usually using specific extruded lump charcoal made for long burns. The other thing to consider is they are doing this at 200-225 as it takes a lot more charcoal for 350. More than likely there are no problems and this is just normal. Next time make you test at 200-225 and see how long you can go - just remember with standard lump, you are probably not going to get 24 hours. -=Jasen=-
tlinder Posted August 16, 2006 Author Report Posted August 16, 2006 How many lbs of lump did it take to fill up the lumpsaver? I did not put it on the scale but I filled the lumpsaver up to the rim with coal.
TheNakedWhiz Posted August 16, 2006 Report Posted August 16, 2006 Drunk-J, when I say I ran my cooker 24 hours, I usually mean plain old lump. I don't use the extruded stuff very often. The extruded charcoal isn't the longest burning stuff I've ever tested. I think it's positive point is that fact that it probably burns more uniformly and consistently.
Firemonkey Posted August 16, 2006 Report Posted August 16, 2006 I dont know, tlinders results look normal to me. He says he filled to the rim of the lumpsaver. After 3 hours at 350 that doesnt look bad at all. If he were doing a longer cook, i would expect the coal up above the basket - possibly near the top of the firebox.
Curly Posted August 16, 2006 Report Posted August 16, 2006 I've never used extruded and I've burned for 18 hours on a good load. I can't recall if I've ever needed longer than that to finish a butt.
DavidS Posted August 16, 2006 Report Posted August 16, 2006 I have loaded up to the top of the basket just under the heat deflecter bracket. Cooked overnight butts and had enough left to do chicken for 1/1/2 hrs. Butts at 225 using Guru chicken at 350 no Guru. Didnot weigh but is was not quite a 10 lb bag Royal Oak. When I do the small chuck roll, 23 lbs I will use Wicked Comp. blend and weigh.
tcoliver Posted August 16, 2006 Report Posted August 16, 2006 This is good for 350 I agree that when people are saying they can cook for extended periods of time its at low temps, 200-225. Lump will burn up much faster at higher temps and its not a direct ratio, its eponential. Even the CEL is no better than regular lump at high temps (over 250). What you are experiencing is quite normal.
Firemonkey Posted August 17, 2006 Report Posted August 17, 2006 David - Can you still get the wicked comp blend locally? If you like it, get it now, as its not being produced currently. I think the reason was that some of the wood used can no longer be harvested. I tried a bag of both the comp blend and weekend warrior, and truthfully couldn't tell the difference between either of them and the K branded lump. (all were given to me) Since I am always using mesquite lump that cames in 40# bags from the foodservice produce distibutor, all of them seemed to burn for quite a while in comparison.
DavidS Posted August 17, 2006 Report Posted August 17, 2006 No not local. This is about 60 pound left over when my k cracked. Comp. blend is no longer. Mostly I use Royal Oak from WallyWorld.
Porkchop Posted August 17, 2006 Report Posted August 17, 2006 Re: Amount of coal used I had the idea that the KK can run for more than 24 hours withour refilling the lumpsaver but the coal you can see on the picture would be sure now enough for another 21 hours. Is perhaps my KK now properly sealed when the upper and the lower hole is closed or where could the problem be? this looks normal. as others have mentioned, most "overnite" cooks involve much lower temps, which corresponds to lower airflow and slower burning coals. once i get my cooker, i'll show you my prep for overnite. basically, tho, you want to fill the whole bottom (inside and outside of the lumpsaver) with lump. i usually put a whole 10# bag of charcoal in my cooker for an overnite (about 20 hrs) at about 200-250 degrees F, and typically have half left when finished.
ThreeDJ16 Posted August 17, 2006 Report Posted August 17, 2006 Drunk-J' date=' when I say I ran my cooker 24 hours, I usually mean plain old lump. I don't use the extruded stuff very often. The extruded charcoal isn't the longest burning stuff I've ever tested. I think it's positive point is that fact that it probably burns more uniformly and consistently.[/quote'] Hmm, all I can buy locally is Royal Oak and I never could get that long out of it - maybe 18 hours for a full basket. But with the CEL I never had any problems. Wonder if there is room on the big ole web for a "The Drunk Whizzer" so I can get all that free charcoal - hehehehe? -=Jasen=-
Curly Posted August 17, 2006 Report Posted August 17, 2006 How bout The Naked Drunk Whizzer ...ya'll could join forces
Sanny Posted August 17, 2006 Report Posted August 17, 2006 How bout The Naked Drunk Whizzer ...You get arrested for that in NJ...
tcoliver Posted August 17, 2006 Report Posted August 17, 2006 PC, I think you will find you need much less lump with KK's than you did with K's. I would think that filling to the top of the charcoal basket would be plenty to get 20 hours worth.
Curly Posted August 18, 2006 Report Posted August 18, 2006 For what? Being drunk, being naked, or whizzing? Cause that's all very legal in Souf Kerlina
leejp Posted August 18, 2006 Report Posted August 18, 2006 350*F would burn a lot faster... Check out my first cook before and after pics... A full load of Wicked Good Weekend Warrior Lump... left over after a 16hour cook at 220*~230*F. Main thread here... http://www.komodokamado.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=302 This was a warm summer day cook... I think I could easily do 30HRs. Start with good lump and use the minion method.
Curly Posted August 18, 2006 Report Posted August 18, 2006 Wow, that's mind boggling...only looks like a few lbs of lump were used. These things pay for themselves in saved lump.
