Aussie Ora Posted February 10, 2017 Report Posted February 10, 2017 They really want to discredit this don't know why. http://www.flavoredbyfire.com/2017/02/09/the-smoker-pot/ we have all used this on low n slow and it works great Outback Kamado Bar and Grill 2
Garvinque Posted February 10, 2017 Report Posted February 10, 2017 They have the holes in the side of the pot, not the bottom! And did John write this up or did someone use a video of his to support they claim? Garvin
Pequod Posted February 10, 2017 Report Posted February 10, 2017 1 minute ago, Garvinque said: They have the holes in the side of the pot, not the bottom! And did John write this up or did someone use a video of his to support they claim? Garvin That's John's blog.
Garvinque Posted February 10, 2017 Report Posted February 10, 2017 Well he's wrong and he didn't put the holes in the right spot, no one told him to put on the bottom side of pot but to put on the bottom of the pot. And where's his science degree because there is science for this!!! Sorry I hate people who will go out their way to discredit something and they didn't properly use the pot in the way it was intended. Garvin 2
Pequod Posted February 10, 2017 Report Posted February 10, 2017 7 minutes ago, Garvinque said: Well he's wrong and he didn't put the holes in the right spot, no one told him to put on the bottom side of pot but to put on the bottom of the pot. And where's his science degree because there is science for this!!! Sorry I hate people who will go out their way to discredit something and they didn't properly use the pot in the way it was intended. Garvin Yes, he goes out of his way to say he understands it, but then purposely mis-uses it (holes on side, high heat) and then goes on to discredit. Then he presents his own video with a different solution (surprise surprise). Nowhere does he do an actual test of the concept the way it's intended to be used. I respect John and the *good* info he's captured and made available. I found his forum useful when I first bought a Kamado Joe because of the overwhelming number of KJ'ers there. But I find myself increasingly migrating away from the Guru. 1
Garvinque Posted February 10, 2017 Report Posted February 10, 2017 (edited) There are some good people at the Guru, and I love the recipes that are shared and the knowledge of Kamado cooking is valuable but stuff like this makes it hard to be a site supporter!! Garvin Edited February 10, 2017 by Garvinque 1
Syzygies Posted February 10, 2017 Report Posted February 10, 2017 3 hours ago, HalfSmoke said: (holes on side, high heat) Yes, I have a firm rule to not use my smoke pot above 275 F (210 F to 240 F is ideal). To further confuse the thread title, a cast iron smoke pot may be the "Firefly 2" of the barbecue world: Half the people who've tried it love it, the other half can't manage to get smoke out of it. I light my low & slow fires with a weed burner, taking special care to heat the underside of the smoke pot itself, and I've never had a problem. 3
Pequod Posted February 10, 2017 Report Posted February 10, 2017 From what I've seen, those who have used it as intended -- both here and at Amazing Ribs (where it is also quite popular) -- have had good success with it. Those who are panning it have departed from the recipe or not tried it at all. It's like those people at AllRecipes.com that rate a recipe 1-star, and then write in their review that they substituted 6 of the ingredients, cooked at the wrong temp using the wrong technique, and it sucked! 4
Stile88 Posted February 10, 2017 Report Posted February 10, 2017 (edited) https://www.kamadoguru.com/topic/33188-smoker-pot-and-good-vs-bad-smoke/#comment-437704 well i have no idea what has prompted him to drill on the side and not the bottom he kind of creates his own facts shall we call the johns alternative fact on a smoker pot lol Edited February 10, 2017 by Stile88 1
Pequod Posted February 10, 2017 Report Posted February 10, 2017 14 minutes ago, Stile88 said: https://www.kamadoguru.com/topic/33188-smoker-pot-and-good-vs-bad-smoke/#comment-437704 well i have no idea what has prompted him to drill on the side and not the bottom he kind of creates his own facts shall we call the johns alternative fact on a smoker pot lol Even more curious is that he says it stopped working once the fire moved from under the pot, but then goes on to say it would work best if you put the pot *under* the fire basket...where there is no fire. Huh? 1
Garvinque Posted February 10, 2017 Report Posted February 10, 2017 Yeah he's all over the place with this one! I wonder what the comments will be on the Guru from people who have done it correctly? Garvin
Pequod Posted February 10, 2017 Report Posted February 10, 2017 5 minutes ago, Garvinque said: Yeah he's all over the place with this one! I wonder what the comments will be on the Guru from people who have done it correctly? Garvin Won't be any from me.
Garvinque Posted February 10, 2017 Report Posted February 10, 2017 Same here can't say what I really want to say without getting bared from site, so I will let others voice their opinion instead! Should be interesting to see if he will post his (findings) Garvin
Paul Posted February 10, 2017 Report Posted February 10, 2017 He does contradict himself and the way I read it he only tried it once.
cschaaf Posted February 10, 2017 Report Posted February 10, 2017 So how many different places did he drill the holes? Quote I can’t tell any difference in the smoke quality or aroma no matter where the holes are located on this smoker pot container in my own testing. Oh well, we tried. Everyone needs to draw their own conclusions. 2
Garvinque Posted February 10, 2017 Report Posted February 10, 2017 23 minutes ago, cschaaf said: So how many different places did he drill the holes? Oh well, we tried. Everyone needs to draw their own conclusions. The thing about this is he is giving out the wrong information on how this works!! Garvin
tony b Posted February 10, 2017 Report Posted February 10, 2017 Welcome to the new world - where people discard true science for "alternative facts" that support a preconceived conclusion. 6
Pequod Posted February 10, 2017 Report Posted February 10, 2017 5 minutes ago, Garvinque said: The thing about this is he is giving out the wrong information on how this works!! Garvin Yup! Like @tony b said^^^^. If this was a young engineer on one of my project teams doing such shoddy work, they'd at least be "counseled" (in White House speak), if not drummed out of the corp. That it's John propagating this nonsense on his own site...it just validates my earlier post about forums and terrorist cells being related. 2
Aussie Ora Posted February 11, 2017 Author Report Posted February 11, 2017 Did not realize that was his blog lol .I just had to post because it was all over the place . Like on purpose to make you not want to go near it Outback Kamado Bar and Grill 2
