Lance Posted May 15, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 7 hours ago, Jon B. said: @Lance @mstang1988 Here are some photos with the sizes of the cooking grates on the 16" and 19" Table Top KK's. First the 16" TT........... Upper Grate Lower Grate The 19" TT................................ Upper Grate Lower Grate Hope that helps!!! Thanks Jon, big help. Have you done any pork butts yet? If so, what size, and how long was the cook on the 16"? Thx. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon B. Posted May 15, 2020 Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Lance said: Thanks Jon, big help. Have you done any pork butts yet? If so, what size, and how long was the cook on the 16"? Thx. Actually......I just did one recently (pictured below). 11 - 12 pounds @ 250* to an internal temp of 205*. I believe it took about 10 hours. The stall was almost 3 hours. I do not use a controller for my cooks. I find once the cooker is dialed in, I don't need one. Also the newer 16"TT have a higher dome lid which is very nice for larger cuts of meat. I have cooked 2 - 8# butts before in the 16 TT. Turned them the other direction than the photo below, so the thermometer was in between the two pieces of meat. No pictures of that cook. Do have a picture of 4 butts I cooked on the 19" TT.............................. Edited May 15, 2020 by Jon B. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Posted May 15, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 7 minutes ago, Jon B. said: Actually......I just did one recently (pictured below). 11 - 12 pounds @ 250* to an internal temp of 205*. I believe it took about 10 hours. The stall was almost 3 hours. I do not use a controller for my cooks. I find once the cooker is dialed in, I don't need one. I have cooked 2 - 8# butts before in the 16 TT. Turned them the other direction than the photo below, so the thermometer was in between the two pieces of meat. No pictures of that cook. Do have a picture of 4 butts I cooked on the 19" TT.............................. Looks good Jon, I may get a 16 first while on my way to the 32. I can get to 2,000 quicker than 6,000. And I can still cook on my egg with the 16"TT until I get to my 32bb. Thx. For your help. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony b Posted May 15, 2020 Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 Keep us in the loop on what you decide to buy/color/tile shapes, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Posted May 15, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 2 minutes ago, tony b said: Keep us in the loop on what you decide to buy/color/tile shapes, etc. Will do Tony, we are currently house hunting so it'll be minute before I make that leap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony b Posted May 15, 2020 Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 Smart to wait and get the tile color to match the new digs! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Posted May 15, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 You got that right Tony, you know how KK owners do. And KK wannabes "that's me"😎 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Posted May 16, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2020 On 5/13/2020 at 1:55 PM, Jon B. said: @Lance Found a few more................ @Jon B. hey Jon, in that 2nd picture what is that silver plate sticking inside the charcoal basket? Just curious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basher Posted May 16, 2020 Report Share Posted May 16, 2020 Will do Tony, we are currently house hunting so it'll be minute before I make that leap. Take the plunge Lance.The day I purchased the KK, I spent a fortune building a roof for it.Does the KK have to suit the house, or does the house have to suit the KK? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacKenzie Posted May 16, 2020 Report Share Posted May 16, 2020 Says he who has a chandelier in the ODK. 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basher Posted May 16, 2020 Report Share Posted May 16, 2020 Says he who has a chandelier in the ODK. Well spotted Mac. I just spent $100 hanging crystals off it.I’ll post a photo tomorrow afternoon when the winter sun hits them.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Posted May 16, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2020 19 minutes ago, Basher said: Take the plunge Lance. The day I purchased the KK, I spent a fortune building a roof for it. Does the KK have to suit the house, or does the house have to suit the KK? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Nice Basher, I like that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony b Posted May 16, 2020 Report Share Posted May 16, 2020 7 hours ago, MacKenzie said: Says he who has a chandelier in the ODK. It's so he can swing from it after each successful cook! 😄 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacKenzie Posted May 16, 2020 Report Share Posted May 16, 2020 18 hours ago, Lance said: @Jon B. hey Jon, in that 2nd picture what is that silver plate sticking inside the charcoal basket? Just curious. @ Lance, Jon is probably boating this weekend so I'll take the liberty and tell you why I think the SS plate is there. I believe it is there to keep live coals from falling out the vent holes. That's my 2 cents. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mcjudsten Posted May 16, 2020 Report Share Posted May 16, 2020 This was helpful, answered a bunch of questions for me. Definitely can see a 16” in my future for small cooks and secondary options. Thank you for the comparison pictures and measurements. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Posted May 16, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2020 2 hours ago, MacKenzie said: @ Lance, Jon is probably boating this weekend so I'll take the liberty and tell you why I think the SS plate is there. I believe it is there to keep live coals from falling out the vent holes. That's my 2 cents. @MacKenzie thx for the reply, but to your knowledge is the plate laying in the charcoal basket more like an "L" shape? Being attached to the inside of the basket at the opening of the vent? Therefore the plate burns with every cook. I'm just a little confused. I would like to see a inside view from the opposite angle. Because if the plate is keeping the charcoal from going out isn't it also obstructing the air flow from coming in freely? That's where I'm confused. Thx for your input MacKenzie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstang1988 Posted May 17, 2020 Report Share Posted May 17, 2020 On 5/15/2020 at 5:56 AM, Jon B. said: @mstang1988 I have the Joe Jr. also and they are close in charcoal burn in warm weather but in cold winter weather the 16" KK is noticeably more efficient. The 16" KK has a lot more cooking space than the round Joe Jr plus the higher dome space. Much easier to maintain low & slow temps (200* - 250*) over longer time periods with the KK. I like my Joe Jr. but love my 16" TT KK!!!!!!!!!! awesome! Any chance you have a picture of the two next to each other? Trying to mentally picture the size. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacKenzie Posted May 17, 2020 Report Share Posted May 17, 2020 @ Lance, no it doesn't obstruct the air flow, here is a view from the inside wall opposite the front vent. The firebox rests on that lip you see running along the top of the pix. Lots of room for air flow. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony b Posted May 17, 2020 Report Share Posted May 17, 2020 That heat shield has a secondary function as well. It keeps the bottom vent door from getting screaming hot, which burns up the knobs, which are wood. There's a gap on each side of the heat shield for the air to flow freely. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacKenzie Posted May 17, 2020 Report Share Posted May 17, 2020 14 minutes ago, tony b said: That heat shield has a secondary function as well. It keeps the bottom vent door from getting screaming hot, which burns up the knobs, which are wood. There's a gap on each side of the heat shield for the air to flow freely. Good point Tony, I hadn't thought of that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
