Jump to content

Leaderboard

Popular Content

Showing content with the highest reputation on 11/17/2016 in all areas

  1. Western Washington State color.
    2 points
  2. And I don't mean 4 or 5 of your buddies or a fork lift and a case of beer, you really, really need to get a structural engineer to evaluate whether your deck can support it safely. It all boils down to gravity. You know, the force that keeps our feet on the ground and makes launching a satellite expensive. Your deck is designed to resist a reasonable amount of gravity, enough to keep you and your neighbors suspended above ground without crashing through it and being injured. IT IS NOT DESIGNED AND BUILT TO SUPPORT SEVERAL HUNDRED POUNDS OF WEIGHT IN A SMALL SPACE! And if there's one thing a KK cooker is it's several hundred pounds of weight in a small space. Deck design and how it's supported has varied over the years , we've all seen the news where the deck fell off the house and people got hurt. If your deck was built more that 15 years ago you're in the Wild Wild West era and I wouldn't put anything heavier than a lawn chair on it. Building codes began to address this and have increasingly mandated deck construction methods and design to the point that today any new house will have a deck that you can pack shoulder-to-shoulder at a party and have confidence you'll all survive the evening. But the codes don't address excessive loads like a KK weighing 500 lb. or more in a fixed location would be. That's where the structural engineer comes in. I have to get a little techie here, we're talking about weight and the ability of a structure to keep it where you put it after all. Deck codes require a deck to support a minimum of 40 pounds/square foot of live load(think of a 160 lb. person packed into a 2'x2' square that follows them as they move around and fill your deck with those people). Big party, right? But everyone has a good time and gets to take their chances driving home. Now let's look at what the deck is made of and the stuff that sits on it, that's called dead load. Codes require decks to support 10 pounds/square foot of dead load. That's enough for the deck materials and a reasonable amount of chairs, tables, etc.. What happens when you place a 23" KK on that deck? The footprint of a 23 is 23.5" x 30", now you've got 550 lb of weight concentrated in a space that 2-1/2 people would occupy for a short time. Less space than that since the casters are recessed. And the cooker isn't walking around, once you get it there it's there. Do some arithmetic: your deck which is designed to support 10 lb/sft of dead weight is now supporting 110 lb/sft. That's more than an order of magnitude greater than design. This is Not A Good Thing. Looking at the BB32 you're increasing the load to 118 lb/sft. There are no dimensions available for the SBB42 but I'd expect a greater increase, maybe somewhere around 130+ lb/sft. OK, techie hat off: What it all boils down to is that it isn't safe to put any of these cookers on any deck that hasn't been engineered for the weight and location of the cooker. You might get lucky and just experience some sagging in the first few years but eventually there will be a structural failure(we all fall down). As I said, that's Not A Good Thing. I've made my living building houses and decks for the last 25 years, never had one fall down. I use software to design beams, I work with suppliers on load calcs and I'm pretty good at what I do. I wouldn't put my 22" Supreme on my deck without an engineered design. "Do you feel lucky, punk?" I don't. Please get some professional advice before you plunk that new KK in the middle of your deck. FWIW, Bill
    1 point
  3. I started curing 4 boneless pork chops for 4 days and then forgot the day I should smoke I was going to be away and that's not all! I washed them out and then went to bed forgetting to take them out of the water, they were soaked for 2 hours more than I wanted, yikes. As if that wasn't bad enough I left town on the say that they should have been smoked. We are on a roll here. Today I smoked them and here they are- They are moist, tender and very tasty, talk about luck.
    1 point
  4. So I guess it boils down to the computer monitor and cameras used as to what we see on our screens. I sure do like the color selection and once I get my wife to pick one then our order will be placed. Pretty excited:-)
    1 point
  5. Thanks everyone.. Been painful recovery but I'm sure with time I'll be good as new.
    1 point
  6. That is such good news, here's to a speedy recovery! Best , Bill
    1 point
  7. Charles I totally agree, it definitely ain't rocket science. But common sense isn't as common as it used to be and I'd have to say the average homeowner just assumes his deck will hold whatever he can fit on it. And he wouldn't know a 4x4 if you hit him with one. I've seen too many decks(and floors, and roofs) overloaded after the customer has moved in to think otherwise. I may be a little cautious but liability insurance is a major expense for the business, if I don't absolutely know and have a code or calcs to demonstrate something I built will safely support something the customer wants then I have to refer them to a structural engineer. Knowing something will work and proving it in court are two very different things. And that goes for you as well: if your cinder blocks and 4x4s fail and your neighbor falls down and sues you, your HO insurance is going to throw you under the bus. It's sad that we've come to making decisions on who might sue us and how we're covered but it's where we are and we have to live with it. I just want to make folks aware that you can't just haul one of these cookers up on the deck and expect it to stay there forever. Best, Bill
    1 point
  8. Good to see it getting sorted our quick Sent from my SM-P600 using Tapatalk
    1 point
  9. Thats some good news, lets keep it coming.
    1 point
  10. Great news, indeed that there's no apparent nerve or tendon damage!! Just don't stay on the oxy for too long. It works, but it's nasty stuff!
    1 point
  11. That is good news about the surgery.
    1 point
  12. Glad to hear it went well.
    1 point
  13. Good news for Ms. skreef. Hope the pain is manageable for her.
    1 point
  14. Well they were awesome. Super tender, bite clean off the bone but not sloppy and the rib squirted when I bit into one. Smoke ring was off the charts today
    1 point
  15. I love that picture of your Kamado sitting next your cabinet with those delicious looking ribs inside that's an awesome picture
    1 point
  16. TY everyone. I read Susan your responses. She appreciates your concern. We figure it's going to be a long recovery. Once she gets fixed up a bit she'll show us all up with some one handed cooking - LOL Will post an update in a few days.
    1 point
×
×
  • Create New...