This is so funny. I am not sure whether it would be a good or a bad idea to show The Husband this thread. When the commercial coffee man came to plumb in my husband's coffee set up, they got into a conversation about extraction rates. Apparently, when they started discussing fractions of seconds my husband said "I'm not anal about it or anything". The coffee man looked at husband, looked at kit and said, "that ship has sailed". I don't know what will happen if I show him this thread. He might be happy to find someone more obsessed than him or, oh no, he may try to fit even more kit into his coffee corner!!