Know what you mean I'm keeping Jr cause its great for a couple of quick steaks and I can cook what I want on Ora plus I don't entertain that much to justify it sitting there I sold it to someone on a Perth BBQ site that was using a warped webber lol so they will notice the difference .I smashed that thing cooked so much on it and loved it but the KK is far far superior Outback Kamado Bar and Grill