cschaaf Posted January 10, 2017 Report Share Posted January 10, 2017 Welcome. I posted on the other board about heating up the grill to soften the grout. I think that might work out and you'd be less likely to damage any other tiles than you would be with a dremel. And, by the way, I am the proud owner of the KK that had the bent latch that ckreef fixed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon B. Posted January 10, 2017 Report Share Posted January 10, 2017 (edited) Looking at pictures again...the main cooking grate, hanging on the side, looks like it was never cooked on and the latch closes the lid, even thought it is bent. Interesting!!!! Edited January 10, 2017 by Jon B. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cschaaf Posted January 10, 2017 Report Share Posted January 10, 2017 That's the Upper (reversible) grate hanging on the side, but I agree, it doesn't look like it's ever been in a hot grill. Either that, or they followed @MacKenzie's cleaning methods. lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacKenzie Posted January 10, 2017 Report Share Posted January 10, 2017 even mine are not that clean. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfpro2301 Posted January 10, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2017 Yes that grate has not been used. All of the accessories are on the inside of the grill. There is another grate on the inside that has not been used. Also there is a large grate that has the foldable sides as well as a pizza stone and heat deflector. One of the shelves looks new and the other faded by the sun. in regards to the damage it was done with a hammer but as I said on the brethren site the man deserved every bit of it for what he did. Personally he should have been tied up and stoned. I called Dennis and left a voicemail in regards to parts and removing tiles. How soft does the grout get? Also in the pictures you will see what looks to be a black mat like substance under the tiles is that the grout or a layer. Wondering if I need to remove that to get the tiles to lay level with one another. I know Bosco asked but yes I will be going into detail on this thread for the whole rebuild. I will make sure I include plenty of pictures. CK & CS if you could direct me to how you fixed the latch that would be great. If no post could you send me a message. I was just going to heat with a torch then slowly bend back. Wondering if I have to do it while it is fully latched so it wont mess up any alignment. Still trying to figure out how to strap this into my trailer 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ckreef Posted January 10, 2017 Report Share Posted January 10, 2017 @golfpro2301 sent you a pm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FotonDrv Posted January 10, 2017 Report Share Posted January 10, 2017 56 minutes ago, golfpro2301 said: Also in the pictures you will see what looks to be a black mat like substance under the tiles is that the grout or a layer. Wondering if I need to remove that to get the tiles to lay level with one another. Somebody correct me but that appears to be the "Jacket" to which the tiles are affixed. I would be very afraid to mess with that layer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cschaaf Posted January 10, 2017 Report Share Posted January 10, 2017 We'll be living this restore with you, @golfpro2301 Yes, that is a layer of the grout - you'll hear it called the 'jacket'. It's kind of like the shampoo/body wash combo - the grout performs the functions of both grout and mastic. In my experience, which is admittedly limited compared to a lot here, the grout gets soft enough that I think you could pop the tiles off of it with a small screwdriver. As I said before, don't just take my word for it, Dennis is the ultimate expert. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cschaaf Posted January 10, 2017 Report Share Posted January 10, 2017 6 minutes ago, FotonDrv said: Somebody correct me but that appears to be the "Jacket" to which the tiles are affixed. I would be very afraid to mess with that layer. I recently messed with my grout jacket and I don't think it's a huge deal... but I did so under Dennis' direction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfpro2301 Posted January 10, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2017 Anyone know where I have to go to get access to owners posts? CKReef sent me link but cant open it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pequod Posted January 10, 2017 Report Share Posted January 10, 2017 2 minutes ago, golfpro2301 said: Anyone know where I have to go to get access to owners posts? CKReef sent me link but cant open it email Dennis asking for access to the owner's section. He has to add you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tucker Posted January 10, 2017 Report Share Posted January 10, 2017 Yeah - using the side bolts where the side tables go is a great idea; maybe like the photo? DO NOT lay it down. Keep it upright Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony b Posted January 10, 2017 Report Share Posted January 10, 2017 I'm crying looking at those pictures. Can't wait to see the full restore!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stile88 Posted January 10, 2017 Report Share Posted January 10, 2017 wow what a shame indeed it pains me to see these pics cant wait to see this restored very impressive how the kk is built not even a hammer can do a lot of damage Dennis will fix you up and when done it will look as good as new Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfpro2301 Posted January 11, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 Ok so I just picked it up. The porch door to my trailer was a 1/2" wider than the grill so I was able to get it inside and secure it against a wall. Along with the Rack on the side of the grill in the pick there were wo other racks as well as two pizza stones. 1 large baking stone which I believe came with the grill. And a wood chip box that I will never use. The only part missing is the Plug for the bbq guru. One quick question the lid raises very easily but does not stay up. Are they supposed to stay up when opened all the way? I talked with Dennis today and he was extremely helpful with the process I am about to go thru to get it back to normal. I plan on starting the rebuild Thurs when I am off work. I plan on first counting all the broken tiles so I can give Dennis an accurate number for replacements. I am going to remove all broken tiles and prep surface under neath for new when they arrive. The rutland refractory cement came in the mail today so I will fill in all deep cuts and level them to the cotour of the lid. The one piece of information I haven't included so far was the price I paid for it. I wanted to wait until I actually had it in my possession. I paid $250 for everything. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cschaaf Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 Wow, excited to see your progress. You can adjust the spring tension so that the lid will stop wherever you let go. Search the boards, you should find instructions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pequod Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 18 minutes ago, golfpro2301 said: The one piece of information I haven't included so far was the price I paid for it. I wanted to wait until I actually had it in my possession. I paid $250 for everything. That just may be the bargain of the year! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 16 minutes ago, HalfSmoke said: That just may be the bargain of the year How about bargain of a lifetime!! Nice score! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfpro2301 Posted January 11, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 One important thing I forgot. I left it in my trailer as I dont know where I am going to store it for the rebuild. My parents live close and that is where I store most of my competition stuff as they have a driveway and garage. My wife and I live in a small townhome. I would like to get it over here but I run into 2 challenges about 8 inches tall. I have a curb next to the parking area it needs to go over and there is no handicap ramp. Also there is a raised lip going into the house. My questions is Can I lean this back so it is on two legs and then push it up over the curb and same into the house. Will two legs support the weight? Also where is the best place to lift on the cooker? I am assuming the handle is a no-no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 Can you make a ramp out of plywood? I'm thinking I wouldn't want all the weight on two legs. As far as a place to lift from the pics shows they ship with rope around the feet next to the body. Slip 2"x4" through the ropes and lift. You're going to need some help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
