Eddie mac Posted January 28, 2018 Report Share Posted January 28, 2018 Anyone ever ran the KK on the right side with the holes to see what temp you get on each hole with the top open at 1/4 to 1/2 turn I am curious might play with that Thursday if no responds and post each hole temp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pequod Posted January 28, 2018 Report Share Posted January 28, 2018 Yes. I tend to use the right dial for low temp cooks. More repeatable than trying to adjust a sliver on the left dial. For low temps, I’ll use 1/4 turn of the top vent, left vent closed, and control temp with the right side holes only. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie mac Posted January 29, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2018 I am going to Experment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Pearson Posted January 29, 2018 Report Share Posted January 29, 2018 Let us know what you find out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Pearson Posted January 29, 2018 Report Share Posted January 29, 2018 I have been just adjusting my temp by the top vent 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie mac Posted January 29, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2018 45 minutes ago, Bruce Pearson said: Let us know what you find out Thursday if weather holds out I will fill basket in the am and run 1/4 turn on top vent go thru each hole record temps starting with the tiny hole first 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tekobo Posted January 29, 2018 Report Share Posted January 29, 2018 I do the same as Pequod for low temp cooks. I smoked some fish the other day and can hold at about 105C with the left vent closed, right vent on second to smallest hole and the top about an 1/8th open. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grant Posted January 29, 2018 Report Share Posted January 29, 2018 I’m interested in the results also. I’ve been using the left dial and just haven’t taken the time to see where the temperature would stabilize on the different hole sizes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie mac Posted January 29, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2018 I will report back 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrus Posted January 29, 2018 Report Share Posted January 29, 2018 Not yet ED, been having pretty good luck with the left and developed a habit of going there. Almost as if it's not there, thanks for waking me up, kinda forgot about it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrus Posted January 29, 2018 Report Share Posted January 29, 2018 12 hours ago, Eddie mac said: Thursday if weather holds out I will fill basket in the am and run 1/4 turn on top vent go thru each hole record temps starting with the tiny hole first Could you please graph that for all of us too....lol bell shaped curve Dr Frankenstien Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie mac Posted January 29, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2018 40 minutes ago, Tyrus said: Could you please graph that for all of us too....lol bell shaped curve Dr Frankenstien Sure will I figure if I we can set top vent to 1/4 then just turn to certain hole and get the temp for low and slow temps would be easier and fine tune with left vent.Now poll should I go 1/8 or 1/4 turn on top vent so all vote Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pequod Posted January 29, 2018 Report Share Posted January 29, 2018 Here are my notes for my 23". Haven't done the same with the 32 because I tend to use that primarily for grilling. Haven't checked this lately -- good enough to get me in the ballpark and adjust from there. Note that at 275 I start using the left vent. Less than 30 degrees on that and it's hard to tell where you are. Temp Top Vent Bottom Left Vent Bottom Right Vent 225 1/5 Closed Third Hole 250 1/4 Closed Largest Hole 275 1/4 30 Closed 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Pearson Posted January 29, 2018 Report Share Posted January 29, 2018 Cool I’ll give that a try Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony b Posted January 29, 2018 Report Share Posted January 29, 2018 Given the variability in the fuel supply, I suspect that you'll need to run a lot of trials to get reliable data. I seem to recall us asking Dennis when he came out with the dual dial door whether the holes in the right side corresponded to any specific temperatures and he said No. They just picked a nice variety of sizes that they thought would work well for most low & slow cooks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie mac Posted January 29, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2018 18 minutes ago, tony b said: Given the variability in the fuel supply, I suspect that you'll need to run a lot of trials to get reliable data. I seem to recall us asking Dennis when he came out with the dual dial door whether the holes in the right side corresponded to any specific temperatures and he said No. They just picked a nice variety of sizes that they thought would work well for most low & slow cooks. Hummmm I see certain settings points in the manual for specific temps using the left vent.I know different fuels burn differently but I usually use same charcoal (fuel) so when Dennis says take a mental note on temp and that vent setting you should get that temp always.Kind of the same idea here right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pequod Posted January 29, 2018 Report Share Posted January 29, 2018 Kind of comes down to how much precision do you need? Does it really matter what temp you get with the second hole if you know that the first hole gives you 250 at 1/4 turn of the top vent? It's an interesting academic exercise, but doesn't really reflect how I cook, which is a few rough temperature bands, and I don't sweat the variations within a band. Temperature chasing is futile. Even the following is more detailed than reality (which is more akin to fuzzy sets than discrete sets): Cold -- no heat for cold smoking Very Low -- under 200 for smoking bacon without rendering fat Low -- 200 - 350 for low and slow (some would call the upper end of this hot and fast...ok) Medium -- 300'ish to around 450'ish -- most grilling and rotisserie High -- 450'ish to 600 -- baking bread and pizza Very High -- Above 600 -- never used Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DennisLinkletter Posted January 29, 2018 Report Share Posted January 29, 2018 The determining factor is how much vacuum the exiting hot air creates in the chimney.. You can have the largest hole with very little vacuum and have almost no airflow.. or the smallest hole with the chimney all the way open creating lots of vacuum and forcing lots of air through the (smallest) hole.. You can however fine-tune an existing temperature by changing the lower dial setting. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie mac Posted January 29, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2018 1 hour ago, DennisLinkletter said: The determining factor is how much vacuum the exiting hot air creates in the chimney.. You can have the largest hole with very little vacuum and have almost no airflow.. or the smallest hole with the chimney all the way open creating lots of vacuum and forcing lots of air through the (smallest) hole.. You can however fine-tune an existing temperature by changing the lower dial setting. Top vent controls vacuume correct Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrus Posted January 29, 2018 Report Share Posted January 29, 2018 It's kind of like tinkering with your carburetor, redoing the jets and changing the amount of airflow for better performance. That's what it is, performance. Is the 32 any different for time till it's completely heat soaked vs the 23.? I heard the 32 is more responsive vs the 23 between temp changes. Seems to me, a question of balance. Good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
