DennisLinkletter Posted April 1, 2017 Report Share Posted April 1, 2017 After 14 years this is where I'm at with the KK lineup. The final grill the 21" Supreme will be shipped later this spring. It's the grill I was trying to build when I created the 22" standing grill which is discontinued. I will also faze out the 19" standing grill. I believe the new 21" is a great size and price point. Full Size Standing Grills Square tiles Pebble & Bronze metallic tiles 42" Serious Big Bad $9,200 $9,460 32" Big Bad $5,900 $6,100 23" Ultimate $4,260 $4,440 21" Supreme $3,500 $3,620 Table Top Grills 22" Hi-Cap Table Top $4,120 $4,280 19" Hi-Cap Table Top $2,800 $2,900 16" Hi-Cap Table Top $2,080 $2,150 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5698k Posted April 1, 2017 Report Share Posted April 1, 2017 All your grills are spectacular. I have to say though, with all the design innovations, the old flagship 23" is still my personal favorite. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stile88 Posted April 2, 2017 Report Share Posted April 2, 2017 That is a hell of a line up Dennis I love the flagship 23 as well I also love the 32 but all of them are awesome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DennisLinkletter Posted April 2, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2017 4 hours ago, 5698k said: All your grills are spectacular. I have to say though, with all the design innovations, the old flagship 23" is still my personal favorite. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk It's my favorite aesthetically too.. That being said the new 42" also has some wonderful lines.. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pequod Posted April 2, 2017 Report Share Posted April 2, 2017 Aesthetically, the 23 is hard to beat. But now that I've used both a 23 and 32, gotta say that I'd pick the 32 if I could only own one. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Pearson Posted April 2, 2017 Report Share Posted April 2, 2017 They all look beautiful I wouldn't mind having one of each size . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DennisLinkletter Posted April 2, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2017 I pretty much only use my 32 if there is only one grill burning. Love grilling sans glove with the splitter Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Ora Posted April 2, 2017 Report Share Posted April 2, 2017 Back in black lol Outback Kamado Bar and Grill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pequod Posted April 2, 2017 Report Share Posted April 2, 2017 4 hours ago, DennisLinkletter said: I pretty much only use my 32 If there is only one grill burning. Love grilling sans glove with the splitter Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk That seems to be what I've settled into, running with the basket splitter most of the time. True two zone grilling with large hot and cool zones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cschaaf Posted April 3, 2017 Report Share Posted April 3, 2017 Now that we're empty-nesters for a while, I've been running the splitter in my 23" almost exclusively. Took it out for pizza the other night, but other than that, my last dozen or so cooks have been with the splitter in place. You really can hide your hand over the unlit side and not feel a thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted April 4, 2017 Report Share Posted April 4, 2017 I'm hoping late 2017 or early 2018 I'll be ordering a BB 32"!! Can't wait. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokinfish Posted April 5, 2017 Report Share Posted April 5, 2017 (edited) I would love to hear more about the new 21". How does it differ from the 22"? Edited April 5, 2017 by smokinfish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacKenzie Posted April 5, 2017 Report Share Posted April 5, 2017 From what I see the 21 has the feet and the dome is the standard depth. The 22 TT has the hi cap and you get more height for grilling plus you can get your pizza up higher in the dome. You will need to make a stand for the 22 TT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DennisLinkletter Posted April 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 5, 2017 I set out to make a 21" standing grill, exactly between the 23" and 19". I overbuilt it and the 22" grill was born as a mistake. The 22" is 22"+ left to right and 21" front to rear. The new 21" is actually 21" left to right and 20" front to rear. It does not sound like much difference but this grill will be much smaller as it will also have it's own base not use the 23" grill's rolling base. I'm hoping to be able to sell the new 21" somewhere around $3600 which was a great price point for the 23" about 8 years ago.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stile88 Posted April 5, 2017 Report Share Posted April 5, 2017 I dont know if i had to pick between the 21 and 23 i would still go with 23 there is only a 700 plus difference price point between them both Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DennisLinkletter Posted April 6, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 I'm told $3500 to 3600 is much easier to swallow than $4260-4440. Seems to be a mental barrier there.. The size is also great for a couple. The 19" is really too small to do many full cut cooks easily. My experience and feedback is that when one loads up with some accessories and delivered, the new 21"grill will be in the low $4000's making it more accessible or easy to convince wives than just over 5 grand for the original 23". I've believed for a long time that a $3500 -3600 price point for a full size KK would hit a sweet spot.. Time will tell. BTW the 32" BB for the first time has more web views than the 23". I attribute this to the release of the 42" which confirms the 32" is not too large and makes selling it to the Mrs... MUCH easier. "Honey, I'm not getting the big one!" Suddenly the 32" is a compromise 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pequod Posted April 6, 2017 Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 Worked for me! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Ora Posted April 6, 2017 Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 I'm told $3500 to 3600 is much easier to swallow than $4260-4440. Seems to be a mental barrier there.. The size is also great for a couple. The 19" is really too small to do many full cut cooks easily. My experience and feedback is that when one loads up with some accessories and delivered, the new 21"grill will be in the low $4000's making it more accessible or easy to convince wives than just over 5 grand for the original 23". I've believed for a long time that a $3500 -3600 price point for a full size KK would hit a sweet spot.. Time will tell. BTW the 32" BB for the first time has more web views than the 23". I attribute this to the release of the 42" which confirms the 32" is not too large and makes selling it to the Mrs... MUCH easier. "Honey, I'm not getting the big one!" Suddenly the 32" is a compromise It's much easy to swallow for the non U.S market as well Outback Kamado Bar and Grill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon B. Posted April 6, 2017 Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 I have always been a big fan of 2 zone cooking. It was the reason I started my journey in kamado cooking with the oval shaped ceramic brand. However, I have to admit I stopped using the Jr. oval once I started cooking on the KK 19". Giving the Jr. to my son-in-law this spring. To my liking the 42" Serious Big Bad is two zone cooking on steroids. I will own one of those beauties in the near future. It will replace the oval XL, which will go to my neighbor & childhood friend. I have been drooling over the 42" ever since Dennis told me about it and sent some pictures. We are pouring a concrete pad and building a gazebo roof for it this summer (my buddy next door has really supportive ). Dang...........if my daughter had only eloped instead of having that big wedding.......I would be cooking on it today!!!!!!! However......I did get a great son-in-law out of the deal...........and the deal we made is.......that he can't give her back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stile88 Posted April 6, 2017 Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 12 hours ago, DennisLinkletter said: I'm told $3500 to 3600 is much easier to swallow than $4260-4440. Seems to be a mental barrier there.. The size is also great for a couple. The 19" is really too small to do many full cut cooks easily. My experience and feedback is that when one loads up with some accessories and delivered, the new 21"grill will be in the low $4000's making it more accessible or easy to convince wives than just over 5 grand for the original 23". I've believed for a long time that a $3500 -3600 price point for a full size KK would hit a sweet spot.. Time will tell. BTW the 32" BB for the first time has more web views than the 23". I attribute this to the release of the 42" which confirms the 32" is not too large and makes selling it to the Mrs... MUCH easier. "Honey, I'm not getting the big one!" Suddenly the 32" is a compromise Well since you put it like that i guess i can see it that way Well i am definitely in those views of the 32 lol that is going to be in my future down line have to save my pennies for sure and yes it does make it much easier to sell to wife indeed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...