The latest models of both wi fi models use a cloud based interface now, making set up a breeze. I have an older, non cloud cyberq, and it just works. I believe the only difference between the cyberq units is the interface, but everything else is the same. I’ve heard great things about the flame boss, but I have also heard a few mentions of probe failure, but nothing serious. Over the holiday, I read complaints from both sides of issues not being able t connect to their respective clouds, I think it was blamed on the busy holiday. I know the cyberq has a function to operate on its own, I’m guessing the fb has the same. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk